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So they advertise this in Natural Bodybuilding mag with Eddie Latoza as a natural product for a test boost. It's got some decent reviews. I checked it out. I also checked out the label and it appears to be natural herbs and leaf extract etc. Yea I know.
I'm sure somone will come on here claiming that it will just drain my pocket book and thats all. ..Well that is not my question. My question is, is this NANBF banned substance safe or is it hid with underlying products that will throw a positive? As I have gotten in my mid 30's my test levels have dropped severely. I belive it must be hereditary as my brother is under going treatment for this and he is only 42. I know that testosterone, legal or non legal is an absolute no no for natty', as it should be! So if there is a way to replace normal test levels/pumps naturally is it ok? At some point it seems it would be unfair for a late 30's 40 or 50's to compete with a 20-25 year old on stage. I know 10 years ago I would have destroyed the current me in a show.
I am new to this game and I have alot of questions. I've tried to post here before but questions take forever to get answered and somtimes folks completely avoid my questions. If you are wanting to bring more naturals onboard then you guys can't be afraid of uncomfortable topics.

So anyway, here is the label. Hope to here some feedback...

CRYOTEST™ Proprietary Blend 2,491mg †
L-Carnitine Fumarate - Epimedium Brevicornum Extract (Aerioal Parts)

Serenoa Repens Extract (Fruit) - Haematococcus Pluvialis Extract †††

N-Acetyl L-Carnitine - GABA (Gamma-Amino Butyric Acid)

Yohimbe HCL (As Pausinystalia Yohimbe)(Bark) - 3-Methyl-1, 2-Cyclopentanedione (3-MCP)

Eucommia Longifolia Extract (Leaf) - Avena Sativa Extract (Aerial Parts)

Eurycoma Longifolia Extract (Leaf) - Ptychopetalum Olacoides (Bark)

Melatonin (N-Acetyl 5-Methoxytryptamine) - Panax Quinquefolius Extract (Root)(Standardized For 5% Ginsenosides)

[quote="S J LUCAS"]So they advertise this in Natural Bodybuilding mag with Eddie Latoza as a natural product for a test boost. It's got some decent reviews. I checked it out. I also checked out the label and it appears to be natural herbs and leaf extract etc. Yea I know.
I'm sure somone will come on here claiming that it will just drain my pocket book and thats all. ..Well that is not my question. My question is, is this NANBF banned substance safe or is it hid with underlying products that will throw a positive? As I have gotten in my mid 30's my test levels have dropped severely. I belive it must be hereditary as my brother is under going treatment for this and he is only 42. I know that testosterone, legal or non legal is an absolute no no for natty', as it should be! So if there is a way to replace normal test levels/pumps naturally is it ok? At some point it seems it would be unfair for a late 30's 40 or 50's to compete with a 20-25 year old on stage. I know 10 years ago I would have destroyed the current me in a show.
I am new to this game and I have alot of questions. I've tried to post here before but questions take forever to get answered and somtimes folks completely avoid my questions. If you are wanting to bring more naturals onboard then you guys can't be afraid of uncomfortable topics.
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Great question.

Cryotest is good to go, no worries with that. Test boosters are a area that one has to be very careful when diving into as while there are many that are perfectly legal, this is obviously a supplement that could easily have a banned substance in it. Just because a product is a "natural test booster" doesn't mean it automatically has a green flag. Research the ingredients and make sure they all pass.

Nothing uncomfortable about this question, what is though is when I have to tell a competitor they can't compete AFTER they already took something that they didn't research...

Hope to see you onstage and great post!

I am impressed with the speedy response, Thank you.

On the Banned list this is stated:
TESTOSTERONE/EPITESTOSTERONE RATIO. The T/E ratio is used to measure the presence of exogenous testosterone, or illicit eleva¬tion of testosterone levels. A T/E ratio in excess of 6/1 is ruled as positive, no matter what the cause. Note: Should the use of any substance cause an elevated T/E ratio in excess of the 6/1 limit, the athlete will be ruled as positive (failure).

The part about "illicit elevation of testosterone" has me curious. Should this be an area of concern? Would Cryotest cause an "illicit elevation" if product was taken close to competition?

I am researching all the products I am interested in. Basically I am on protein and Beef aminos. I quit taking everything when I decided to compete in natural shows. So I am trying to learn what all I can take.

Thanks, Scott

Any truely natural test booster shouldn't put you above your normal base levels. Getting a 6:1 ration is a large boost and natural athletes using natural products won't come close to this without artifical hormones, etc.

At best, these products will put you to where you were at 18 years old (ahhh the good old days!)